Make All-Stars Great Again

roscoe:
Hello, hello and welcome back. It's been a minute, but here we are. It sleeps light night on your host. Rosco were presented by Inside the rank. I'm here with Step, the Fatalist and Dart Broder. How is it going, my friends?

steph:
It's been a while. Hey,

roscoe:
Yeah, I mean you, you had your adventure out to Toronto. I always start with you. How was that whole shebang meeting everybody and getting a spend time with Lips Nation?

steph:
It was really fun and you know I was a little nervous, especially meeting a bunch of people off the internet.

darty:
M, hm,

steph:
Ou haven't met before. It's like one big date in a sense, right, but everyone was super nice and there for the same reason you know, just wanting to connect light minded leaf fan. So yeah,

roscoe:
Oh,

steph:
it was

roscoe:
we

steph:
nice

roscoe:
lost already.

darty:
Yeah,

roscoe:
No, but that's that's good to hear. I mean, I don't know if everybody wants to be named, but were there any anybody from our our audience that you met when you were out there, or from our Twitter verse.

steph:
Man. There are people that I knew of before and those that I've never heard of, and we just followed the same people. So Um, too many to

darty:
Oh

steph:
name. Honestly, I'd have

darty:
yeah,

steph:
to write down a list, but I highly recommend if anyone's in the area to talk to Jeremy, who runs these little meet up. Last one was done by Holly, but Jeremy has three more planed and it's honestly a great night to just go out and Have a couple of beers or not if you don't drink and watch the game with other people who just want to watch the leaf game. You know,

roscoe:
Yeah, and that kind of extends to if anybody in the Autowa area, I know I've realized over the last couple of weeks that I'm not the only one like and Andrew as well, That are you know, in the leaves Twitter verse that are in Utowa. So if anybody wants to link up for any of the two games, either the March, what is that? Eighteenth in April first, I think,

darty:
Yes,

roscoe:
or the two games that couple weeks apart, I've tickets to both of them, So if anybody's going and wants to say, hire me up before the game, you know, shoot me a message on Twitter and we can do the same Autawaleaf fans. Let's let's band together.

steph:
Yeah, it's super fun, Julian, Aubrey off Twitters, coming down from the U. K in March. So one of those meat ups, he, he will be there. and honestly like meeting Curtis from Alberta. That was awesome. This guy is a real life. Jem can't

roscoe:
That's

steph:
say

roscoe:
awesome.

steph:
nothing but great things about him. Honestly and even Holly on anyone on leaves. Twitter. No bag head were there, but all of the good ones so highly record. I,

roscoe:
Nice and Daddy Broder. How you been?

darty:
Daddy. you always got a good one for me. I've been good. I've been good. I'm not going to lie to you. I've catching too many leaf games. I know this is what we do, but I've said it once and I'll say it again. This is the worst thing about being me and I'm sure lot of people feel this way about how they. You know. I'm not the only least fan that's like this. Is that I already know how this story ends per se, So these games are meaningless to me. I'm sorry, but there's a lot of meaning people Pulling out of them. but you and I both know that we're going to the first round right. I'm not funking jining anybody here. We've been there unless some catastrophic

roscoe:
M.

darty:
happens, we've been great. We've been fucking phenomenal. So said, these games are pointless, like get me to the fucking first round and show me the wind, So I'm sorry that all the fans at home ere like Wow, Dart. You have not brought any great content or you know there's nothing.

roscoe:
Yeah,

darty:
There's nothing good here. You've added no value of this. Yeah, because this is a valueless season Until we. the regular season is meaningless. Show me the fucking money. show me the meat, So I might not be as vocal about certain things unless God forbids like crazy happens And you know some of you know some of these games are are wild per se, but they're not like you knowthey're. not mind blowing because the leaves haven't been on a like. That's the point I was going to make before, but I'll stop. I'll say it for later. But like leaves have still have been doing pretty pretty good. you know pretty good.

roscoe:
Pretty pretty good.

steph:
So that

roscoe:
it's

steph:
explains why we have a bunch of complaints in the complaint department already Because you're

roscoe:
Yeah.

steph:
not believing lately or not watching or what, Because I got a couple emails with your name on

darty:
Oh

steph:
it and

roscoe:
Oh,

steph:
just kidding.

roscoe:
okay. I was going to say

darty:
Letters to

roscoe:
let

darty:
the

roscoe:
me know

darty:
editor.

roscoe:
on stuff like that happens.

darty:
that darky guy. he's got to go. What a bum.

steph:
No,

roscoe:
No, and I think that's a good segued into. I didn't really have an order that we could talk about these, but I think it's a good good little transition. There were some numbers released. I don't have them in front of me, but that the ratings are quite down in the states, and one of the reasons that people have been bringing up is exactly what already said is that because of the format that we've had for the play offs, everybody knows who's playing who, especially here in life Nation, like we know that we're playing Tampa on the first round. Something drastic happens, which I mean, the deadline will see what team really swings for the fences, But judging by what's going on right now, things are going to stay as is, so it's hard to really care about. You know the second half of the season like, really, Since game, you know, thirty to forty. We've We've pretty much known they're gonna play Tampa, so I think it's hard to watch these games. especially you know with by a week and they all start game like. people can easily forget that this is going on, and kind of get out of the swing of watching Hawk Until the blayhoffs come around. So I think it's totally understandable. What do you guys think on that?

steph:
Well, you know, I have all star fresh in my mind and this break, but at the same time it's kind of nice having a little break before we get right into it this last push before the playoffs. Like this last, you know, I'm hoping for a lot of players to come out and pull strong, and for example, I don't know, Like Colorado, who's supposed to be making this huge push because they haven't been doing so well thus far, And maybe I'm going a little bit off topic, But

roscoe:
Well, I mean, let's just look at teams that were good last year. I mean Calgary and Colorado and Florida. They're all kind of under performing this year. The Rangers that render performing. I mean Washington, Pittsburgh are kind of in the same boat. The only real Cinderella story this year has been. Boston Leaves are kind of flying the same place they were last year in Sower, Tampa, So it's a lot of those stronger small markets and medium size markets that whose teams have fallen off this year that you know. At this point they're like. Well, we can pack it in because at this point it's it's kind of a lock, or we're fighting for a wild card spot. so it really depends on the market that you're in, but I feel like a lot of people have kind of packed it in until the playoffs just because of the format, which I mean, Betman brought up at the All Star game. He was asked about it and he said, You know, it's what was the quote. It's like not worth changing. Basically

steph:
Well,

darty:
What

steph:
Sydney

darty:
an idiot.

steph:
Crosby says he wishes you know to change the format, Sid, the kid, who are you going to listen to in this league? Ov Sid Mid,

roscoe:
Here

steph:
all

roscoe:
I want

steph:
these

roscoe:
to pull up.

steph:
super stars.

roscoe:
Batman

steph:
I don't have the

roscoe:
says Hell has no plans to change. Play off for at the debate about one versus eight. It's not just that you have to look at changes to the wild card and start looking at the match up in terms of how many teams play each other. If you're having conference based play off. It's not as simple as saying, I like one versus eight versus what we have. It involves a whole host of other issues that have to be addressed. Except it doesn't because you just changed it to this from that

steph:
M.

roscoe:
a few years ago, So you can't just make up. Well, there's a whole list of issues that come with that because there aren't we know. there aren't just changing.

darty:
Now there's one issue

roscoe:
Like

darty:
is that Betman is still a fucking commissioner. The guys bum like I would rather

steph:
Hm,

darty:
have Paros as head of the hell, because at least that would keep things interesting. All right,

steph:
M,

darty:
It's time for some young blood. put fucking torts. you know like it's getting rid to the point where Garry is boring. I don't want a fucking know about Gary Betan, I don't want to hear about Garry, but o't never want to see Gary Betman, I'm sure he's a great guy. good to his family. Who knows I don't care. I'm sick and About hearing about commissioners of a goddamn sport. I want to know about the players, and quite frankly we're talking about the all Star game. We all know these are lost leaders. I'm like the biggest King football fan. I've never seen a pro ball once in my life. Not only do I not have time to see a meaningless game, but it's four kids, Is for people to get in there and become fans of the sport. All right, it's not for us who already here who like love it. I know what Austin Matthew is goin can do. I know what conternmicdavid can do. These are meaningless games. Very obviously, I said they've always been a lost leader, But with this sport right now, the way Hawke's going, like Batman's either got to go or he's got to do some radical changes because you know there is nothing but vitriol and hate for this all Star game. It's very clear that the fucking stars don't want to be there like they've got to figure something out fast. because if you don't have the stars, who the hell are the kids going to see All right Because I'm not watching the game. Sorry, I'm not that I'm not big enough a fan to watch a fucking all star game, especially when I know that my team Going to be in the first round and likely get fleeced again. All right,

roscoe:
So, just to draw off O that before

darty:
Sorry

roscoe:
before getting into the all Star

steph:
M,

roscoe:
game? No, it's It's totally totally valid, but

steph:
M,

roscoe:
to draw

steph:
Hm,

roscoe:
off the bet man thing, the other side that I've heard is the reason for ratings being down. Is writing is only account for people that are watching the game on T V on cable through legal means, and because of R, Happy thirtieth anniversary, Garry Betman. that is becoming increasingly hard every season, especially for people like me who don't live in the market, Lowed to watch your team, so the more people move on line to stream as games become less accessible as prices go up for sports Net Plus and T. s on Plus, or whatever they're called Sports Net. Now, I mean for me to just get the two of those to get the out of market games, which is, I think more than half the season it would be about six hundred dollars. So it's it's becoming less accessible, so people are moving to streaming it online like the pirates that we are, And

darty:
Ho.

roscoe:
that causes the ratings to go down. And I mean It looks bad to advertisers, because you're you're just making it hard for people to watch the thing that they're trying to watch. And if we learned anything from streaming, it's that like, Look me myself as somebody that used to pirate movies and T V shows when I was. You know what we're talking like ten years ago when things were not on Netflix Like you know, there was a handful of things up there, but it was always like. Oh Canadian Netflix sucks. This is way back before. They're petty. Much the same now

steph:
Yeah,

darty:
Now all next folk socks.

roscoe:
Like I would hire things, because they weren't accessible. If you give people legal means to access something within the services they already subscribe to. They will use those legal paid for services to watch your product. But if you make it hard, people are gonna go well. it's a lot easier to just go to whatever dot com or dot whatever country and watch the game there instead of paying for it on some other service because onestly, the last thing people need right now is another Just to pay for. Like everybody's monthly subscriptions are adding up, and it's just it's something that we don't need. So if people really want the numbers to go up with the n l on these markets to thrive, all they need to do is make the games more accessible to watch and again. Unfortunately, this, I don't like to keep talking about him and throw them under the bust, but this falls on mbetment again, like he's just made it harder and harder for people to watch their own team. And then he complains that we can't get these small markets going. Well, you know, maybe there's people outside of of Minnesota or Seattle or Vegas that want to watch that team, but you're not giving them a fair chance to

steph:
Yep, I think his time is up. Honestly. I don't know how this leg is going to be rid of Batman, but every time I think of him addressing the media or just shaking there, and I know he has a medical problem, but just how his look on his face,

roscoe:
Okay.

steph:
it looks like he's going to flip his lid and you know steam is going to come out of his ears, because he only believes what he knows, and like you, can give him all the starts and it doesn't seem to work out. For example, Even today, finding out that Connor Bedard, telling T. s N that Mason Mc Tavish, sends them a text every time the ducks lose, and they talk about wanting you know how much they look forward and wanting to play with each other in the N. H. Ll.

roscoe:
Oh my God,

steph:
Meanwhile, Betman is convinced that nobody. it's impossible to tank right like this is an impossible theory. No way in hell. and like we're seeing ship like this on the news. Come on. like what do we need? The actual text messages Is going to be a back and forth every other night duck schedule. like, can't wait to see you, but can't wait to live with you next year.

roscoe:
At the end of this contract, he'll have been in charge for thirty four years. I cannot think of another person like anybody who's in charge of anything for that long. besides, like you know major corporations where there's some family that runs it. But like that's not what this is. Like anything where somebody is. I don't know when you have someone in charge of any form of entertainment. You need to rotate who's in charge or it's going to get stale. People are going to fall behind and All we've seen over the last twenty years is the n. h. l fall behind. It's you know, the most embarrassing thing that I keep seeing on Instagram. I don't know if you guys have noticed this, but they keep posting sports net in n. d, s. N. these basketball players walking into games wearing n h l gear and all the comments are like How much is the n h l paying you to have players that are from a league that's making money advertise your brand like it's so obvious These guys are just walking in wearing like a jersey like a Calvary Flames jersey. Like Tell, They know what team they're wearing or they've ever seen that before, or Ca name one player on the Flames at any time like they don't care And it's just it's embarrassing. It's it's embarrassing to feel like the sport that we're watching is just slipping in popularity when you know it's Canada Sport, and you know the government is all on protecting Canadian content and all this ship. But like they've done nothing to stop the N h l from putting up these barriers for Canadian to, It's like honestly, just to go off on, I know I've been ranting, but to go off on a little bit of a tangent. There's a huge thing going on with this Bill C. eleven for Canada, Like interfering with you know, the Internet and getting involved with how Canadian contents displayed on you tube, and all this stuff. I don't understand why they haven't interfered. I. they're going t interfere in anything to make a Canadian cultural entertainment form accessible to all Canadians. They haven't interfere with te n h, L. and said, Look, you can't put up these these regional blackout restrictions like this is Country sport. You cannot restrict people from watching other teams in this country like that's That's silly. We want to grow this game, not diminish

darty:
Amen

roscoe:
it. So if if Trude and the C, T, C and the Heritage Committee want to get involved in anything, get involved in the H. L instead of outube. That has literally. There's no reason to do that,

darty:
End quote,

roscoe:
Mike. I'm done

darty:
You guys sung on that stuff.

steph:
No, I totally agree. I, honestly, the dream right, one price, unlimited access to all entail content. Honestly, if we have the right, you know how much money you can make like if you had the option of having you know, if you have the Leafs app, you can see interviews. You can see specifics to the team and their schedule and fan related things. If you can get this all compile Led on a singular app for every single team man that would be your goal is to click to get all of your inflow in one place.

roscoe:
Head

steph:
That's the goal of these social media platforms to be on one platform for all of your needs and to interact the most on one site. If the N H wants to go further and look into this, follow what the t. f C did with the Apple contract, Right and Apple users can watch Unlimited Sucker, so I don't know. It's

roscoe:
A crazy

steph:
I don't know.

roscoe:
idea.

steph:
it's so hard.

roscoe:
When when the contract with Rogers runs out, keep the rights yourself. You know like no. I guess they have to sell because that's where a ton of the revenue comes from is selling it, But maybe an alternative is the n h L just sets up their own subscription. like you have the N h l. P. and you can just watch whatever game is on and like they have their own service like I don't know. I'm kind of getting back to my own point, but go ahead dart.

darty:
There's so much information and just his knowledge and opinions that are past that. I kind of don't want to stamp too much on it. but what I would like to say is that it's just it's like Garry Betmanis. Not even cool. You know, like again, like,

steph:
Uh,

roscoe:
Yeah,

steph:
uh,

darty:
like, At least Vince Mc man, like, I'm actually like. I mean, I

steph:
Yeah,

darty:
like. I don't watch W. W. But if I do like, you know, he's there. He's their commissioner right. At least he makes a.

roscoe:
Not any more.

darty:
but I'm just saying like he was there for a long, Tim, And right, his family. Like you know, it's always been a big part of it

roscoe:
Okay, you do. just just on a side. You do know what happened there right?

darty:
Again. I know, but I don't know. but what I do know,

roscoe:
Okay, we can get to

darty:
but

roscoe:
it

darty:
what

roscoe:
after.

darty:
I, what I do know is that at least he's fucking interesting, regardless of what happened. Like if he's out there doing is like

roscoe:
Uh.

darty:
you know.

roscoe:
uh,

darty:
Is you know like At least that's like, Instead of Garry's like sour push face Like very. Finding you guys are all bowing Me. Why are you bowing men? Great, and you're asking for problems. I don't. I'm

roscoe:
M.

darty:
Gary. Like whole Ship like

steph:
Piz

darty:
that is not why I watch

steph:
Mazoric,

darty:
Hoke. That's not why I watch hack. I don't watch hackefruit Jentravolta Isms, You know,

roscoe:
Okay, You make a good point. that Mc man was present and you could tell that he watched the sport.

darty:
Hm,

roscoe:
The complaint that is totally valid of betmentis. He clearly doesn't watch this or he, like anybody, that was in charge of how this game is broadcast and how any of these major events are broadcast to be like, Wait, what the fuck are we doing? But on a side, Vince Mc man was ousted because he was having a relationship with one of his staff members. He's also married, so they outed him And they were like. It was one of those things like Trump where he's like, Oh, it's going to a trust and they handed control over to his wife and they're like that's not good enough. So they took it away from the whole family, and now somebody else is in charge

darty:
If Garry

roscoe:
and

darty:
bet man had

roscoe:
apparently

darty:
a trist,

roscoe:
it's doing quite well.

darty:
that would be the most interesting thing that has ever happened to the N. right in regards to fucking in regards to the upper Managemeil right. That would, actually, honestly, that would make me respect him more just because the guy is literally like there is wall paper past That is significantly more interesting than Gary Betman,

roscoe:
Uh,

darty:
Okay, I'm sorry,

roscoe:
uh,

darty:
I'm not out here like praising adultery, but I am praising though is the fact that the guy Is simply boring and I'm sick and tired of you know, I'm here to watch the sport. I'm here to watch guys beat the ship of each other, play good, hawke, and fucking score goals. I don't care about some aging R. Burns, plump man being annoying and being

roscoe:
M.

darty:
annoyed by us. That doesn't fucking make me care about our sport. It's enough and that's the point I was trying to get back to. Is that? why do we think that there's a big fucking thing about Harold Ballard that came out recently, Because I think Deep down the people are getting annoyed, the upper management across the league, not every, not every teams like this, but across the league is starting to fucking, you know, complacent and lined their pockets and they don't care anymore. The Gary Batman has put them in the school of Ballard, and there are at least sixty percent of the teams who are very happy being mediocre because they are still getting paid and fun. Fact, that's not going to grow the game and might grow their wallets and might buy them yat, But it's not going the game. It's not helping push People that want to play the god damn sport, so it's not opening up barriers as much as Hawke claims to be about. You know, diversity and caring about players of all backgrounds. They don't give a crap. I'm sitting here today today telling you that if they actually cared then guys like fucking aquiline, guys like the fucking management in Philadelphia Flyers would be up in arms trying to out scary Batman and start fucking pumping money to where it matters instead of just laying their fat pockets, because there are fucking thous, Millions of dollars to be made if they actually gave a ship,

roscoe:
Honestly, and the people that are at the top of the executive committee, The who is at the ones that own the Black hawks. The words family, They honestly with the, with the state that the Black Hawks are in, they should be pretty vocal right now to, I mean, like the attendances down there, the teams falling apart, like the I don't know they should be. They should be on the side of finding a new commissioner Anyway, I do want to transition from this into the star Gam, While we're talking about some things that are really working and I want to start with reading this break down here. we can go piece by piece through this. This is from friend of the show from Down on Lucas Haines,

darty:
Luke,

roscoe:
Worth

darty:
man,

roscoe:
so. M, First off, So I watched pretty much every minute of the Hell Stars Skills evening. These are the things that he liked, So Ov Junior saw that that was cute but also super lame. It's not like when you Okay when you see Ov and Crosby on the ice together at the All Star game for like the first time ever for this break away challenge. I don't want to see them pass it to a toddler and have him just push it in the net. It's like I wanted to see something cool, but like it was cute. I don't know. Dunk Tank needed ice, Pksubaand, Miami Vice Marner, reversed retro, cosrebeating, Mc. Jesus, miccarstylish, fail and pitch and puck. I watched this. I was actually surprised at how entertaining The golf hockey thing was. I didn't think it was going to be like I didn't think he were gong to E. able to get the shots off that they did. I don't know why, but I thought it would be a lot harder to shoot up a puck like I don't know you don't think about outside of the context of a rank, like how far these guys can shoot. So when you put that on to a golf course, it was like Oh, that's kind. of. that's kind of entertaining. Did you guys get to chance to see it?

steph:
Yeah, I actually really enjoyed that as well, so interesting. like you said. It's nice that they carried the little pad with them as they took each shot and then actually used the stick to put the golf ball into the hole. But I don't know. this is like the definition of sauce. And when you were watching this segment all these commentators were saying was like, Oh, extra sauce, perfect sauce. This sauce was this

roscoe:
Little

steph:
like,

roscoe:
mustard on it?

steph:
I felt so bad for Robertson. There immediately called Mercy after his first or second shot, but I guess the whole point of this that was like the the fuck moment was when the prize was eight years worth of a pole and the winner wanted where capoliis. not even in

darty:
We

steph:
Kabeck, Nick Zook can even access to pole.

roscoe:
Well, if he comes over right across the border to the Rio center, there's one there so he can come like an hour and a half.

steph:
Okay,

roscoe:
Uh,

steph:
not too far, but still I thought I was like.

roscoe:
That's

steph:
Wow,

roscoe:
pretty funny.

steph:
I can't believe they don't sponsor in Cabet, because there's obviously one in Toronto as well and other locations. But yeah,

roscoe:
Yeah, I think it over all as a game. It was interesting. You know. it's Florida, So you know you got to show some golf. I think it worked. I didn't watch more than one whole of it, though, so I don't know how much the entertainment keeps up like. I mean, I can't watch a whole day of golf, so I don't know if I could watch a whole day of people of hockey players playing golf. So before we move on, Is her anything that you guys liked about what you saw of all star, I guess weekend Friday, Thursday and Friday.

steph:
I appreciated that they went with the reverse retro, right, Like we

roscoe:
Yeah,

steph:
complain all year that we don't see enough of them, So this is a perfect time to bring them out and show case them right. And

roscoe:
Yeah, I agree.

steph:
um, you know, I thought we were getting the whole frozen meat puck situation. That was the rumor with the alligators like to. I don't know how that was going to happen, so I guess we got the surf board thing or the the pup Or the golf thing, which I don't know. I feel like they longated everything. I felt

roscoe:
Yeah,

steph:
like it could have been shortened. Kept sweet, but everyone was just standing around and ytiataand, the players didn't look very interested.

roscoe:
Oh my god, no, there was. I think it was the hardest shot competition. When they were introducing all the players, I saw that one. I caught bits and pieces of this, but they were going down the line and I have never seen a more disinterested group of people in my life. Like. Well, they're calling their names at It was just

steph:
M.

roscoe:
Insane man,

steph:
M.

roscoe:
like just Dead Pan, And I mean there's people. I get there weren't a ton of people there. But like there's people there to watch you. At least put something on for the few people that did show up. I don't know it. Just it was kind of sad, but I do agree that Reverse Regos were in nice touch, especially because the the actual Eastern West jerseys were showed out to the nineties ones. So it was cool.

steph:
And I like how they incorporated the beach, and like when you think of Florida, what do you think of beach and golf? And that's exactly what they did?

roscoe:
Okay,

steph:
something we've never

roscoe:
I think of a couple

steph:
heard.

roscoe:
other things with Florida, but okay,

darty:
Disney World, Right,

steph:
Yeah,

darty:
Rosco.

steph:
we're trying to keep it positive. Okay,

roscoe:
Yeah, a Disney world.

steph:
But for Sunrise and I was speaking with a Tampa fan and talking about. You know how some of the seats weren't filled. And next year we're getting it in Toronto right. So

roscoe:
Okay, look,

steph:
they.

roscoe:
I've been to the Panther stadium. It is equivalent to the Auto Senator stadium. It's in the middle of an like. If you pull it up on a map, it's like on an island. Essentially, it's surrounded by a massive parking lot for like forty five thousand cars. It's

steph:
M.

roscoe:
insane.

steph:
hm.

roscoe:
it is insane. It is the least accessible.

steph:
Yeah, So that was their argument if the arena was more success accessible, and if the competition was actually on the Saturday, Sunday instead of Friday Saturday, maybe the attendance rate would have been higher. and immediately, that's what I thought of the Auto Senators In how you guys always explain to me It's such a bitch to get there. You can't get there easily from downtown Autoa, You can't go anywhere to drink beforehand like it's just in this industrial area, not even in Autoa, Apparently, And down there it's sort of the same thing. and it's not a Hawke city. I mean, I was in Orlando in November. People didn't even seem like they knew what Hawke was like. I don't know. I saw one Snowburg fan that was from Montreal, and one girl mistaking my idea for Ohio, and started chirping me with like a bunch of football references and I'm like Know, it says Ontario. Sorry.

roscoe:
Okay. Can you guys see the screen that I just shared,

steph:
Yes,

roscoe:
Look at this. Okay, so here's here's their stadium. Look at this parking lot.

steph:
Who it

roscoe:
I'm

steph:
is. Disney World,

roscoe:
I'm

steph:
The

roscoe:
not

steph:
whole

roscoe:
kidding.

steph:
park in line.

roscoe:
This is the biggest parking lot I've ever seen like I went through a couple of years ago with my dad And it's It's like a fifteen minute walk from either end of this thing. It's like going to a university

darty:
Did he share

roscoe:
in

darty:
the

roscoe:
Canada,

darty:
arena with anybody?

roscoe:
but then I'm not sure who else hosting says hosting music performance S, plus Florida Panther's

darty:
Guaranteed

roscoe:
Ice Hawke

darty:
the

roscoe:
games,

darty:
music

roscoe:
So

darty:
performance.

roscoe:
I think it's only

darty:
S sell

roscoe:
this

darty:
out more than the banners games.

roscoe:
And it's called the. Yeah. The good store is Panther land, So it looks like it's only Panthers games. But look at this when I zoom out, so it's essentially it's kind of on an island like it's surrounded by water. You have to take a bridge to get in there. But look at this. It's beside the Everglades.

darty:
Oh nice

steph:
No,

roscoe:
Like

steph:
Whoa.

roscoe:
this is all. just this is an island of a mall. And like all these little lakes, and I like there's nobody lives

darty:
Image.

roscoe:
around

darty:
Imagine,

roscoe:
here.

darty:
like the, You know, the Senators built their stadium, and adjacent to it was a Gonquinpark.

roscoe:
Just

steph:
That's

roscoe:
like

steph:
literally what it looks like.

roscoe:
this is nuts, and

steph:
Wow,

roscoe:
it's like there's fort. Later. Look how far away from the beach and the water it is.

steph:
M. hm.

roscoe:
If you wanted to put a team out here, why not put them near the beach so that you can attract people? That maybe wouldn't be hockey fans? I'm like, Why? if you're going to put it in sunrise, I just don't get this. I don't know. man. this is stupid. It's like the farthest away

steph:
No,

roscoe:
anyway. Yeah, so that's

darty:
Another

roscoe:
why?

darty:
question for you, John, About some in group That, Were you guys aware that that they had a mascot named Victory Rat,

roscoe:
What?

darty:
because

steph:
I

darty:
he was just

steph:
saw

darty:
getting

steph:
that.

darty:
just absolutely pummeled by this guy. Apparently some camp I'm sure set up, but some Tampa fan was was really prickly and he jersey and was like, like beating up the mascot. And they just people let it happen And I was like, and

steph:
Yeah,

darty:
I'm like

steph:
they just

darty:
looking

steph:
let it

darty:
at

steph:
happen.

darty:
Ind. I'm like I'm like this is. I could swear they had a different Ascot. I would have thought that they had a mast cut that was like a panther, but yeah, I was like. And then I'm looking at again like his name is Victor E. Rat was like was like. Look, there's already Victor E. green. Okay and he's stupid, Victor

roscoe:
Crazy?

darty:
E rat. I don't know.

roscoe:
Okay? So Next tweet of this chain from Lucas things that I think need be working, Slash close to, but not a hundred percent the tendytandum. good idea, but better execution. speed skating bring a specialist wild card. Every event needs a wild card competitor. Zegris, et Cetera, Patnmaroon has potential, but not media ready yet. So the thing on the specialist wild card, I'd like that because there's people that could potentially be good at one thing, You know, Like we're bringing all stars because they're all around good at everything, but they might not be the best at one thing right so I think it'd be cool to you know, Have a nominee from around the league. Like, like the players get to vote somebody. And like who do you guys think is the fastest person? And whoever the players unanimously vote in, gets to join for that competition. Like maybe asked? The goal is like who, outside of the All Stars is an absolute snipe show, or who has the Hardest shot from like Goles and defense men, And then ask everyone who is

steph:
M.

roscoe:
the fastest and add those people in. I think that would be interesting.

steph:
Yeah, And you know everyone has a bunch of recommendations and since we were talking about mascots, you know, there's so much weight time between each event. I can't even imagine being a ticket holder to one of these weekends Must feel like Why not do a mascot thing like challenge the mascots in a in a race, or like a freaking obstacle course or whatever, and have some in between entertainment.

roscoe:
The mascots had all of their own events, but they didn't do them like they should use those to separate everything instead of having like jumping around between stuff, and like pre recorded things like, just have the mascots come out and have you know different rounds of dodge ball in between setting up for different events Like there's things that you can do to entertain the people that are there that you can also broadcast. I think the thin that they forget is that there's two groups that they have to keep locked in and entertained all day, And that's the people that are physically there and the people Are watching this at home, and those are two different things. Like you have to have enough going on that people there can go to different events, but you have to also have stuff that that translates to on camera, and I think that's where they fail here as they just they can't make something that translates to both groups.

steph:
So how do you guys

roscoe:
M.

steph:
feel about

roscoe:
M.

steph:
keeping all of the events in the arena? Then? like if it's going to be so much of a confusion or a bust in a sense, why not stick it to old school and keep it in the arena? What do you guys think about that?

roscoe:
Dar. Do

darty:
I

roscoe:
you

darty:
just

roscoe:
want to

darty:
feel

roscoe:
take

darty:
like

roscoe:
this first?

darty:
they really have to focus on what they've been doing right and just cut the crap to right, Because like I don't know, there's just something about looking back to those old all Star games and like how cool they were with with Gretskiand. you know, little me and all that. It's like. What? Like those? Those all sort of games seem to be like they were actually like big events. And now it's just kind of like almost two corn ball in a way, And you gotta, we really have to sell it to the fucking players to be there too right Like just you were mentioning that they. They really just didn't seem like too involved. Like this is the were always complaining about about the players not having enough personality are not really showing showing their personality. Well, this is. this is the point where you know you got to get there. You got called their ate to say, Look like we need these guys to be as goofy and as funny as possible. Like if you got to give them a red bull or something before, just do it because it's not just

steph:
Uh,

darty:
like. it's not just about

steph:
uh,

darty:
we get it. These guys get a massive paycheck. The great Players. You know, we can't really force them to do anything. Well. It's the one day of the year that you got to sell your sport to everybody to earn the salary and continue earning the salary for yourself and the rest of the league. Don't be boring. God damn it, don't be boring. All right. There's some good moments though I like the little exchange between the that Brady, Chuck and Marner there. S. it's just just

steph:
Yeah,

darty:
they, just really honestly like everybody needs to take everybody that's involved, needs to make sure that this is not just a boring event. I think we were at a point now where we talk about like players you know, like Labronand. James is like, very involved in the direction of their league. Right Well, you need these players to be accountable and step up to also not just participate. but you know we always were complain about Garry Bet man, But who organized the all Star game Right if the players really want to be involved in. Maybe again. it seems Ike. It's totally upper management that that's failing. failing on this to. You need to. If you want the players to be involved involved the players. All right. It's there Game to. It's their sport. Get them. you know. I think those guys know better than anything because they've been watching it. Just like us. What will fucking make them happy and everybody else happy? Would you not agree with that?

roscoe:
A hundred per cent. That's what I mean about like having the players vote each other into the All Star Game instead of like, I get the fan vote. But you're just opening the door for a you know, just name people. you know. you know what I mean, just people voting dumb people in. And the, they're just on to ignore it. And then why did you have a fan vote anyway, Or like this year where they have a fan vote and he, They're just like It's a suggestion. Have the players vote each other in. I pick the all star like one from each team and then the other ones have the players pick who should, Ain't them. You know, because they have the pulse on who's the best in the league right so then you'll get some interesting picks. The other thing that would be interesting is have like two celebrities come in and do like fantasy draft and pick the teams to go against each other, because they might not even be that good, but they're the best players,

darty:
Yeah,

roscoe:
so it can't be that bad, But it's like you put weird combinations of people together where it's like somebody that would that watches Hawke every day would be like, Oh my God, Snoop Dog. what are you doing like? Don't put those people together. Those guys hate each other like it would be so

steph:
Yeah.

roscoe:
funny.

steph:
honestly, one of my recommendations was going to be You know, bring back the all star Fantasy draft. They used to have this where the captains and the alternates picked

roscoe:
Yeah,

steph:
players from any you know, east or west, and then you saw teams get formed from both sides, But originally I asked you guys about you know, keeping it in the arena, because the Ahl had their all star Um events right after the Ill, and you know a lot of talk on Twitter. People were like This is what we wanted to watch, Sort of thing. They saw skills. They saw Joseph Wall take the top honors for goal tenders, and also a big thing was that they took down the half wall class so that fans could interact with the players

roscoe:
That's

steph:
while

roscoe:
really

steph:
all

roscoe:
cool.

steph:
of the events. Yeah, while it happened, I've never seen that happen before. That is a really really cool thing They did.

roscoe:
So yeah, sorry. your original question was about keeping it in the arena and I think Yes, Astorixs. if you're in somewhere like Florida, you kind of have to take advantage of the fact that it is nice out in February and nowhere else has that advantage like it is something that's

steph:
Yeah,

roscoe:
unique to Florida and the California teams, and you know some of the others like Texas and ire Dallas. But uh, normally, Yeah, I would say, keep everything in the arena. Because then, Like I said, if you're trying to do a fan experience for the people that are there, you can't have people moving around or feel like they bought a ticket to part of the event Like you know, That's how you lose out on people attending things right. Like if people said Well, I'm going to go to the beach thing or the golf thing, but I'm not going a go to the skills competition. stuff like in the arena. So then maybe if all of those things were in the arena, it would have been full, but instead you spread everybody out. It's the same thing I say, shout out auto about blues vest, where they, instead of doing like a country Ay a rock day and a hip hop day, they spread one artist out on each day, hoping that you're gonna buy ten tickets. but instead people just buy one and thou have a bunch of empty

steph:
Hm.

roscoe:
days. So it's it works in theory, but in practice that's a really bad idea. so

steph:
Yeah,

roscoe:
yeah, I think they should put everything in the arena. They should go back to five on five, because three

biehner:
Uh,

roscoe:
on three. I get that it's fun. but like, let's let's show some real hockey here Like you know, you've got the best guys. Let's let's show some cool some cool ship. Like I got three on three. Get Space. You can do fun things. But like, let's recreate why these guys are the best having go against each other. See a cool game. Maybe do like shorten periods. switch out the goal. These like they used to do, and then and then go to skills competitions and expand them, instead of just having fast skate or hard shot and shoot the targets Like, have some some other things that incorporate where you are or I don't know. I, just there's so much room to cut crap out of this Like already said he banter. welcome to the show.

biehner:
Hey, everyone, sorry had some difficulties locating my cord

darty:
Excuses.

biehner:
for my computer there,

roscoe:
Oh no worries.

biehner:
As it's the truth, though quickly on what you were saying there, Johnnie. Um, I completely agree. They need to basically get back to basic with the

roscoe:
Yeah,

biehner:
all Star game. Go back to five and five. You need to get the actual competitions in there that involves skill. and if you want to do something fun or something, work, go ahead like I want to say, it was Oh seven or somewhere in there they had like Goal y, fastest skate or something like something silly like that. Right,

steph:
I like

biehner:
Create

steph:
that.

biehner:
some some fun ones like that, But then you want to keep the originals hard as shot everything, but I don't care if they're an all star. I don't care if they're a fourth line plug if they've got the hardest shot. Invite them for the hardest shot competition.

roscoe:
Well, that's what. I don't know if you heard my point earlier, but I was saying because Lucas brought up that they should have like a wild card for each of these events, and I was saying that the players should nominate. You know who they think is the fastest and who they think is the hardest shot, and all that, so that those people get into the competition as well as the All Stars so they can show off. You know, I'm Mc. David May be the best all around, but I am a little bit faster than him.

biehner:
Yeah, like I want to see a faster skater final of Mckinnanvers, Mc. David. like that would be incredible.

roscoe:
Yeah,

steph:
Yeah, and you know a good idea I saw on line as well. You want to keep the crowd entertained. You want to keep the players you know, giving their undivided attention. Why not give them a little prize fund for M V P of the All Star Weekend in the game, as well as making you know our arcade style rules in a sense, for example, during the game, maybe a certain period of time goals worth two points, or like you, switch out Just to make it interesting, like things you wouldn't see in a regular season, but just to encourage the players to, you know, not hurt themselves, but give a little effort because we are paying fans here. We are looking forward to to these these nights, so I don't know. It's just an idea. You're laughing at me. It's fine,

roscoe:
No, I think it'd be funny. Like a sign goes up. It says like off sides and icing are now allowed. And then

steph:
Right.

roscoe:
like the sign comes down, another one comes up. This is back passing no longer allowed. It's like Oh, shit, like having them adjust on the fly like, oh,

darty:
No

roscoe:
oh

darty:
two

roscoe:
no.

darty:
line pass

roscoe:
Oh no. that'd be kind of fun to watch

steph:
Yeah,

roscoe:
No

steph:
like

roscoe:
two line passing.

steph:
for the next thirty seconds a goal is worth this many points. Like just to keep it in the game like they're still sucking around. It's for the kids

darty:
Gollies.

steph:
and whatever,

darty:
Now have to play

steph:
but

darty:
defense,

steph:
I'd be really

roscoe:
Yeah, I was

steph:
yeah,

roscoe:
gonna. I was gonna say like how would you get the goals out? Like gales can't be in the Crease

steph:
Right

roscoe:
Trapezoid rules are now out the window.

steph:
Or most goal goals from the opposite goal line, Like trying to shoot it in the nets or anything like

roscoe:
Only

steph:
just

roscoe:
defense

steph:
little.

roscoe:
men are allowed to cross the center line.

steph:
I don't know, just to keep it entertaining. And

roscoe:
Yeah,

darty:
Even even put

steph:
yeah,

darty:
like Mc David

steph:
why not,

darty:
and Mc Kinnon, and Net, and have like have, like

roscoe:
Oh

darty:
Bennington

roscoe:
no.

darty:
and fucking H. M, and like Freddy Anderson,

roscoe:
That's an

darty:
face

roscoe:
idea.

darty:
off against each other or something. that.

roscoe:
Have the gales come down and try to take shots

darty:
Yeah,

roscoe:
on players. That would be funny.

steph:
Or only excuse me, actual trick shots only

roscoe:
Yeah, none of

steph:
like

roscoe:
this. none of these bullshit like you know, Gimicky, It's just for show. it's you know, a little nod of the hat kind of deal like, let's let's see some cool stuff, especially since things are ramping up skill wise now like players are getting better and better and I feel like the

steph:
Yeah,

roscoe:
competition is getting boring. Okay.

steph:
And just one more thing.

roscoe:
one more thing.

steph:
One more thing. Give them a couple of chances. If you're going to do like a skill or break away competition, give them like three chances to allow them to try things they wouldn't try during a game or even a regular shoot out in n h. l game. like just a couple opportunities to get it off and best one anyway,

darty:
That's what. that's

roscoe:
Yeah,

darty:
what they do

roscoe:
tardy

darty:
with the

roscoe:
and then we're

darty:
N.

roscoe:
moving

darty:
B.

roscoe:
on.

darty:
A the slam down competition. Don't they know? they rate it and then you get a couple of couple of

roscoe:
Yeah,

darty:
chances to do it, But my phone is dying, so I'm going to hand off my my color over to Beinerallright so he can. he can add the add, the

steph:
M,

darty:
remaining

steph:
hm,

darty:
hot takes, and and have you, but I'm sure Bane will edify all

roscoe:
Okay,

darty:
of you

roscoe:
you

darty:
because

roscoe:
better,

darty:
I miss his his beautiful voice and his his positive positivity, and his wealth of knowledge. Right so I, I couldn't stick around. I said My phone will die and and then it'll just be shocking and I don't want to shock you guys, So love you all.

roscoe:
Thank you. You better get the thing plugged in and finish your upload.

darty:
I will. I promise by

roscoe:
Thank

darty:
folks.

roscoe:
you.

steph:
M, M.

roscoe:
Good to see you by. Okay, So things that didn't work from Lucas, lots of standing around waiting, Mc David saying he hated micky mouth. lack of backing music at outdoor events need more niche skilled players. I'm sure there's a faster skater somewhere and bet man wasn't in the dunk tank, So I mean a lot of what we covered already. So things that are moving in the right direction. So this is some positives, ladies competing big, plus their more diverse paces on T. V. Love that trying new ideas. it's good to try things. even if they don't work. It's good to at least say Well, We tried it and it didn't work. Regeneration of media and people covering sport, great and fan skills challenge. We should bring the winners to next year's showcase.

steph:
That's interesting. That would be nice to see fans involved. You know, the top three of all of the video submitted, for example, and getting the kids involved.

roscoe:
Yeah, and sorry, Lucas just sent me a message to add on here, he said, If you want to explain as well, because I didn't grow up with Hawke always being available and pervasive. Watching the All Star Game was the one time a year when I could see the All Stars at once before the nihil deal with S. P, N and n, h, l, t. V. it was the only ethnic broadcaster and we would get random as games like Hartford versus New York Islanders or Saint Louis versus Philly, So the all Star game was like a makeup event or good introduction to new fans, and a kind of Liked this year, especially because the Atlantic killed the others admit, had a great personality for it. So it's

steph:
Wow,

roscoe:
a good point that you know, with all these things that we brought up, and kind of Sedarti's point that this is, this is where you collect new fans, so you really need to make sure that you're showing off everything that your sport has to offer. Like the point of the Allstar game should be. Look. This is what the best of the best is. On any given night you can see any of these guys playing. Just turn your T V on. Switch to one of these games. one of these players will be playing because we have some one From every single team except Seattle. Sorry, Seattle,

steph:
A

roscoe:
Go ahead, banner,

biehner:
Yeah, like.

roscoe:
And can you

biehner:
unfortunately,

roscoe:
turn your mice up a bit

biehner:
Sorry. is that any better?

roscoe:
A little bit?

biehner:
Um, let's go old fast and here I'll hold it. Um. Unfortunately,

steph:
M.

biehner:
with they all start game. I think a lot of the times. the biggest complaints are from people who have been fans for the longest time already.

roscoe:
That's a good point.

biehner:
Because we know what this game is. We know what we like in this game and a lot of times. that's not what you get at the All start game, because the All start game is typically geared towards kids. People who don't you know who aren't watching all the time. People who actually are there alive And then maybe trying to get new fan showing. Hey, Hawke's Fun and it's for everyone, even though it's not um.

roscoe:
It's not.

biehner:
I don't know if you guys touched on that yet or not.

roscoe:
Nope.

steph:
No,

biehner:
Um. but I remember liking the all Star game a lot more when I was younger, and I don't know if that's just because that's what it's geared towards. Yes, it is cool to see some of the things still, but I don't really pay as much Attention to it now as I used to, which in a way is a shame. but like Lucas said, it's still a very good introduction for people who maybe don't watch all the time.

roscoe:
If I had not watched Hawke before and I was like, Oh the twenty twenty three, I'll start, game is on and I've watched that skills competition and that's what I saw of Ovid and Crosby. I'd be like. I thought like. that's like. If me as somebody who doesn't watch soccer was like, Oh, Rinaldo and Messy are doing some like challenge thing together for the All Star Game and they like passed it off to their kids, and I was like, Oh, well thought they were supposed to be like the best in the world. Like I get it. It's cute, but like I wanted to see them do something, because I've never seen Before because I don't watch this game. you know, like you have to look at it through that lens, and to just to be devil's advocate to what you said, because we've watched the game so long, I feel like we know how we want it represented to new fans like we, we know what the best of the best is of this game and what it has to offer, and we want to see that represented in a condensed form, turned up to an eleven with with all of the best players in one spot and I feel like they just fall short of that. Like a. It doesn't have that effect like us, as hard core hockey fans should be pumped for this and it just feels like an event that's for nobody. like, I mean, if it's geared at kids, they had Follow boy playing. So that's for who like that's for the thirty something year olds, the twenty something to thirty something like

steph:
M,

roscoe:
like Follow boy.

steph:
Hm,

roscoe:
Okay, I mean, I guess they're making a come back, but that's it's not a name. that's like. Oh my God, like the kids are really getting into Follow Boy now. So

steph:
No, it's

roscoe:
I just

steph:
a You still exist.

roscoe:
in golf like our kids going to watch their favorite players play golf. Like

steph:
Yeah,

roscoe:
I don't know. It feels like

biehner:
It was

roscoe:
it's

biehner:
held in Florida.

roscoe:
It feels like it's ell. That's what I mean, Though it. you have to, Because it's there. But if it's four kids, it's not, and if it's for adults, it's not like. It just goes to the same thing I say about the way that games are presented at the Coca Bank Arena. It's just they don't know who there they're doing this for like that. It's they say it's for kids, but the references are so dated that no kid would understand them. So it's it's somewhere lost in the middle and that's where you start to lose people. because kids don't get it. An older people think it's cheesy.

biehner:
Well then, With regard to the all Star game. To you, you have you don't have the All Stars of that season there

roscoe:
Yeah,

biehner:
right like you don't have the best of the best that season, and with their comment on Ov and Crosbie, as much as they might not want to realize that they're not the face of the league anymore,

roscoe:
No, but you're telling me that neither of them can pull at a pretty cool breakaway challenge shot.

biehner:
These are two players who, through the course of their career, have both at times conveniently had injuries right around the all Star game and not gone,

roscoe:
I mean,

biehner:
so it's never

roscoe:
I wouldn't

biehner:
been high on their priority list.

roscoe:
O. V. Yes, he's always avoided it, but like Crosby has been hurt many times, I get it, so I don't know. Yeah, sure,

steph:
This to

biehner:
Uh,

steph:
me honestly

biehner:
uh,

steph:
felt like Sid and Ovis, Good bye letter to the N. H. L. This really felt like this was going to be the last time we were going to see them together at an all Star game Because we know Ov always de clients. Ov was a participant in all events this year, which is so weird, Sid. You know, he had the whole thing with Marner, and then he came up with Ov su Ban's like Star Struck, and takes a whole five minutes To get us a jersey sign on the ice to show the fans like Hey, I'm with the two biggest super stars in the N. H, O, one of the two. And, and if you're not, if you don't have knowledge about the N, Which, Clearly, if there were a couple videos made Um of fans reactions, you know, name this player name that player. Nobody knew ship about funk. Okay, nobody could name Sydney Crosby, God or Mac David, except for the random Seven year old who probably has been playing hockey since since birth, but I'm not even complaining about the beach. I'm not even like I liked those events. I appreciated, you know, Hawke and hot weather. I love that we might get an Australian game. We might get an outdoor game in Florida. This is great. It's just so disappointing when all of these super stars cannot show off and they just fun around on the ice. like even Mitch, Man, You go To the video of him walking down the beach. It goes to him in the arena and he's like P. K is like, Do you have what I need? You go what I need, but like it's like, like some sort of drug deal. It's like What do you need, Mitch? What do you need? Just get out with it. It's Lilongo, and what does he do? The Same ship he would do in every single shoot out the week shot, Maybe not every single because he's had a really good one recently. But you know what I mean,

roscoe:
Yeah,

steph:
I don't know. Like

roscoe:
The only thing I can hope for is that the weather is a little nicer next year for Toronto because well, it was lovely in Florida. It was minus forty in most of Ontario during the all star game. For those two days That was insane. I don't know what it was like where you guys are, but it got to with the wind chill minus forty three at one point here in Autowa, so hopefully February, second, third or third and fourth, whenever it is, it will be nicer next year and we can all be there together. That would be fun.

steph:
Yeah, I was really wondering the layout of how this would happen around Mapelief Square. You know the Scotia an arena. Are they going O take it to maybe exhibition place, And you know Rico Colicem, sort of area where they have the The cane comes in and they use that parking space like. I'm just wondering if they're going to go with the way of majority outside of the arena. how they're going to make it in. You know, the metropolis of Toronto.

roscoe:
Yeah, I think it depends on what. Like. I don't know if they've coordinated with Scotia Bank That there's no concerts going on like. I don't know if it's that far out. Pardon me, I'm drinking club soda here. smart to do that while hosting.

biehner:
Yeah,

roscoe:
Um, Yeah, I don't know if there's anything going on that like recocallcm, or the cane Like that makes sense just because like you said, the parking is easy or it's pretty tough to get to the Scotia bank. Uh, yeah, but there's also a lot of space inside. Have other events going on for people that are there, like meet

biehner:
Sky

roscoe:
and Greet style

biehner:
dome.

roscoe:
stuff That would

steph:
Oh

roscoe:
be cool you.

biehner:
Ah,

roscoe:
The Rogers Center to be sick,

biehner:
put a rink in the Rogers Center.

steph:
Capacity

roscoe:
But

steph:
is you know? I'm almost triple the S. B. A. Have it

biehner:
They're

steph:
all

roscoe:
I

biehner:
just

roscoe:
think it's

biehner:
doing

steph:
in the

roscoe:
over

biehner:
the

steph:
sky

biehner:
big

roscoe:
triple.

biehner:
renovation

steph:
dome

biehner:
in it.

roscoe:
Isn't it like seventy thousand there?

steph:
Roof

biehner:
I think they

steph:
open.

biehner:
lost some of the capacity with the renovations they're doing,

roscoe:
Oh yeah, they lowered it right.

steph:
Still.

biehner:
And you know, according to Mike Rep, this is going to be Matthews's swan song in his final season as a leaf. right,

roscoe:
Yeah, yeah,

steph:
Oh my god,

roscoe:
um,

biehner:
Yeah,

steph:
M,

roscoe:
capacity

steph:
hm,

roscoe:
forty nine thousand, two hundred and eighty two

steph:
Be sold out

roscoe:
For concerts,

steph:
first time since

roscoe:
it's ten

steph:
ninety

roscoe:
thousand

steph:
three.

roscoe:
to fifty five thousand. Oh, it was the last time I was sold out was ninety three

steph:
I'm just assuming with Blue Jay's World Series,

roscoe:
Because I'm pretty

steph:
but

roscoe:
sure Dead Mouse sold it out.

steph:
I think Lady Goga did to last year

roscoe:
Oh my God,

steph:
anyway.

roscoe:
Guns and Roses performed at Rogers Center, Twenty sixty in July Sixteenth, in front of forty eight thousand attends with Billy Talent.

steph:
Wow,

roscoe:
Holy shit, That's crazy.

steph:
M.

roscoe:
M. Yeah. anyway, we should talk about the Toronto make beliefs, at least for a little bit here. since we're almost at an hour, we should close off with this. Um, lots of rumblings going on the deadline approaches, run a by week, which is pretty lame, but it's a good chance for Matthews to heal up. Things have been been rumbling, though around a couple teams, and the way that I want to do this Is, I want the two of you to try to make a trade. You are Kyle. Do this and just tell me which which team I am and I will will act as their g. M. and you can offer me something. And the exercise that I'm trying to show off here is what the Leafs don't really have and do have to give up, and what the market looks like you know, compared to everybody else. Like how easy it's going to be for G. M to just say no and maybe get your hopes down on a couple of things.

steph:
M.

roscoe:
Say we're not going to get team O. Mir. Um, Yeah, So what do you think? Like Chicago is A is a target team and like Arizona, So do you guys maybe want to do those two when you can make a chicken trade, and when you can make a like a Mccabe and Tave's trade or something,

steph:
Why did you you know not include to Mayer, Because my trade is about to mar.

roscoe:
Okay, fine,

steph:
Okay,

roscoe:
Make make a trade offer to me for Teamomier. I'll bring up San Hose cap friendly. Make a trade.

steph:
Okay, this is off my, you know uneducated cap brain that knows barely anything about this

roscoe:
Okay,

steph:
Willy Vanille, Willy villain, New Eve. Yep him, Adam Gardette,

roscoe:
Oh, William, villain, villain, view or villain of

steph:
Yes, Well, even newly Adam got at Alexander Kerfoot for Tmomier Sharks

roscoe:
No,

steph:
just traded away Magna.

roscoe:
No,

steph:
They're losing a D. Okay either, or Jordy Ben in Val, So kerfoot, Ingvaljordy, Ben, I'm rotating out of this, but I want to give them one of our prospects, a defender, a really high ter marly, like Gaudet, and then a guy who's kind of eating up some of our cap.

roscoe:
You're You're taking this too much of what you don't want to give up and what you want to get rid of, you're

steph:
I'm being

roscoe:
going.

steph:
greedy.

roscoe:
this is. this is my point. As you want, Team Mara, you're going to have to spend. You're going to throw that second around pick. You're going a throw in a prospect that actually means something. And do not fucking tell me that Pierre involves a prospect.

steph:
Okay,

biehner:
Yes,

roscoe:
I'm

steph:
How about

roscoe:
like. this is what I'm taught. This is the what I'm trying to prove Here with this exercise you can't just give away the things that you don't want and the things that are taking up gab space and get back to Mir.

steph:
So the leaves have a first, a conditional third with the

roscoe:
Right,

steph:
sins,

roscoe:
they don't have their

steph:
I believe

roscoe:
second

steph:
fifth and six for next year, but they

roscoe:
Okay,

steph:
have a whole lot in twenty twenty five, so maybe I'll give them one of the twenty twenty five ers,

roscoe:
Okay,

steph:
Alexander Kerfoot, Willy Vanille, and I'll even throw in a godet. Come on now like Yeah,

roscoe:
You're not. You're not getting rid of God

steph:
I'm

roscoe:
at

steph:
bad

roscoe:
in

steph:
at

roscoe:
a

steph:
this.

roscoe:
trade

steph:
Okay,

roscoe:
here

steph:
I'm sorry.

roscoe:
like

steph:
Hey, maybe

roscoe:
like

steph:
he

roscoe:
you're

steph:
will thrive in the sun.

roscoe:
What

steph:
I don't

roscoe:
is?

steph:
know.

roscoe:
What does Willy Vanille even play?

steph:
He is not

biehner:
Villainois,

steph:
playing for

biehner:
he's

steph:
Toronto.

biehner:
a defense man.

steph:
Yeah,

roscoe:
What? What's that mean?

biehner:
He's a defense man,

roscoe:
defense men? Oh yeah, here, William,

steph:
He's a right handed D.

roscoe:
Yeah, and okay, yeah, Okay. he was what pick? Drafted? A hundred

biehner:
Did

roscoe:
and twenty second over. All. this is the prospect

biehner:
she at?

roscoe:
you're

biehner:
twenty?

roscoe:
going O,

biehner:
twenty?

roscoe:
give me for Demo Meyer, with a second round pick next year, and Alexander Kerfoot, who is contract, is expiring and I don't know if I want to resign to this team because I'm trying to get rid of money.

steph:
Frien. you can even have

roscoe:
And you're you're

steph:
Max

roscoe:
asking?

steph:
Ellis,

roscoe:
You're asking them to retain salary at that point, Because team mayor make six million dollars and the sharks have no space, So you got to move at least six million and they have to, or they have to retain. So

steph:
Ho,

roscoe:
this is what I mean. So is there a realistic something that you would actually part with if you wanted to bring in tea, Myer to this team because I don't. I'm not knocking that he would. He would be useful like it's somebody that could definitely bring something to this team. But I just think the draw Off once you hit the bottom six is still going to be pretty drastic, even if you bring him in, and that's something that needs solving. So by moving out all this that's those are potential guys that could fill in there. So

steph:
Kyle Clifford

roscoe:
No,

steph:
is very valuable.

biehner:
Ah?

roscoe:
no, Ben, or do you have any trades you want to put up here? Step as only given me garbage.

biehner:
So, since she's on the mayor train, let me take a stab at Mir.

roscoe:
Okay,

biehner:
So you are going to get the blunt and never used Swiss Army if Alexandra Kerfoot,

steph:
We'll sharpen

biehner:
And

steph:
him for you.

biehner:
yeah, well, we'll get them all sharpened

steph:
I.

biehner:
up for you.

roscoe:
Okay,

biehner:
So Alexandra Kerfoot, our twenty twenty three first rounder

roscoe:
Okay,

biehner:
lottery protected. Not that that's going to matter,

roscoe:
Doesn't

biehner:
but

roscoe:
matter. but yeah,

biehner:
just throw it in ther. our twenty twenty four second rounder

roscoe:
Okay.

biehner:
And I will also throw you Tyler Voit,

steph:
Who? That was loud.

biehner:
Current

steph:
Sorry That was.

biehner:
current

steph:
No, No,

biehner:
H.

steph:
in my

biehner:
L.

steph:
head,

biehner:
scoring champion And I will include. Where was he here?

steph:
Kyle Clifford

biehner:
Wow,

steph:
Skin,

biehner:
Alex, Steve's.

roscoe:
Okay, Um,

steph:
Do you

roscoe:
so I, at that point you're looking at them retaining at at least two and a half million of his six, so just under fifty percent for that of first second void, Steve's and Kurfoot for fifty percent, retain Temomyer and anybody else, or is that it?

biehner:
That's it.

roscoe:
That's it? I would say yeah. I think that's realistic.

steph:
Boom?

roscoe:
It's

biehner:
That's in my mind. That's probably what is going to have to happen for the leaves to get a Mir.

roscoe:
Just because his cap it is so low and he's an r. f A. and he's physical and he scores like he's going to be the most expensive person in the market and we just saw what Borva went for. You know. it's I think the market's kind of been set now, so I think that's a realistic offer. It's it's sucks to have to part with one of these guys, but I think it's to be expected that one of void, Steve's, or You know, here, Venn, somebody's going to go like someone's gonna go, because they really want to go for the deadline. From what we've heard, there's block buster in the works

biehner:
But the trade I was more so thinking of, and I still don't really think they're going to go after chicken. But if they did go after chicken,

roscoe:
Just on a side. I think the reason that they're entertaining the idea of chicken is because unfortunately, Morgan Riley has been under performing this season and they do not have any defense men that are offensively minded other than him Like there's some guys that can take some shots, but nobody's really.

steph:
M

roscoe:
Justin Hall has been the next best offensive forward and that really shouldn't be the case.

steph:
The Jake Musin hole, which you know dubs It pains him without Jake Muzzin. And you know he's going to be looking for a replacement there.

roscoe:
Yeah, it's the Jake Musin hole, but again it's like you don't notice that as much if Riley is up to what he was playing last season or the year before, but he's just really been struggling to find his offensive game. Like his defense hasn't been terrible. It's not been great, but I mean he's not been been like, you know, unplayable defensement. It's just the fact that it's taken him this long to find the score sheet as far as goals go. And you know it's a lot of secondary assists. There's no Lot of you know you're You're noticing his play setting like I'll give it to him a couple of games ago. He did have a really nice. Whether was the Boston one of the game before That was really nice set up. but I mean, look where fifty games in and it's It's only now that we're noticing him, so I think that's why you're seeing the talk around chicken heat up after it was. I think a lot of people dismissed it at first. As you know, Why would we need that? but now it's we might need that. The same

steph:
Yeah,

roscoe:
reason people are talking about a goal. Now that matter, He's struggling. right

steph:
Yeah, like I think Go has been solid. Of course, Timmons has been an unexpected surprise.

roscoe:
Timmons

steph:
but

roscoe:
is great.

steph:
yeah, yeah, but neither of these guys were expected to be the one to punch with Morgan, Riley, Riley, being our number one guy and then your back up to Muslin is Sanine, who has that offset offensive upside. But I don't know Timothy, little grand man that shot That he, like I said, he's not afraid to take this show. He might be the number two guy next to

roscoe:
Yeah,

steph:
Morgan, Riley,

roscoe:
you're

steph:
Um,

roscoe:
right,

steph:
the way he's progressing, but

roscoe:
But make me a trade for chicken.

biehner:
So ideally I would want to include Lawson crows,

roscoe:
Okay,

biehner:
but

steph:
M

biehner:
that's not realistic in my mind that that would be to me that would be the idea or the definition of a true true block bust, or like a trade for chicken and rows,

roscoe:
Yeah,

biehner:
But at this point we'll do chicken and buke stat, But dad's a big body can play. center can play wing. He can kind of fill in that bottom six role at a little punch and size down there that we may need.

roscoe:
So you are at a total of five and a half million dollars. Just so you know,

biehner:
Yeah, that's okay, because Murray is going to go on long term ire, and then we're going to pull him back for playofft, Uh,

roscoe:
That is

biehner:
uh,

roscoe:
some wishful thinking, my friend. but I see your point.

biehner:
Yeah,

roscoe:
Murray is four point six, eight, seven, five, though, so it is only enough to hide chicken, But the

biehner:
Oh

roscoe:
leaves,

biehner:
yeah, but I haven't. We haven't made the trade yet and as of right now, they have one point, what is, at one point, eight or one point

roscoe:
One point

biehner:
one

roscoe:
one,

biehner:
of

roscoe:
three, eight.

biehner:
deadline space.

roscoe:
Um,

biehner:
So

roscoe:
Okay, so what are you moving for Chicken?

biehner:
So for chicken, I don't really know if they would go for kerfoot, because he's couple of years. you know, he's getting towards the end of his thirties, so in this deal I would probably be looking more. so let's say

roscoe:
None of his twenties.

biehner:
let's do in. Yeah, that's what I meant. Ignore the age thing. Um, so let's go an Gal Anderson. And as much as it pains me to say it, Topyniemela,

roscoe:
Okay,

biehner:
So Angel Anderson Neamela, and then, as long as we didn't pull off the mayor, trade our first around this year yet again lottery protected, and that it's going to matter. But yeah, I think if even if dupes traded the first around this year, not lottery protected, and it was for Mac David, people would yell at him just because that's how people are right now. Um, and then our Third and fourth rounders, and twenty twenty five.

roscoe:
I think that would get

steph:
A lot.

roscoe:
you. That would get you chickering and bug stead. The thing with. I would love chicken and cross the difference here, stuff in the price is like to Myers done at the end of this year, like his contract company is an r. F. A chicken is signed until the end of twenty twenty five at four point six million dollars. So it's his contract is insanely good, especially with what the markets at right now. He should be making double that. if he was healthy and consistently playing it Level that you know he's capable of. Lawson Cross is signed to the end of twenty seven at four point three million, so I don't think they're looking to part with him. It looks like he's kind of going to be one of the consistent ones with with Clayton Celer and Nick Malts siting into the future there, but I don't know how much there. They're sold on the top three or whatever.

biehner:
I,

roscoe:
They end up being.

biehner:
I think the injury to Nicky Bobby this year has really handcuffed dubs,

roscoe:
No kidding. Because that

steph:
Yeah,

roscoe:
was

biehner:
Because

roscoe:
somebody that

steph:
and

roscoe:
was either

steph:
god,

roscoe:
going

biehner:
it

roscoe:
to come in or go out right like it was. either you

steph:
M.

roscoe:
show him off

steph:
hm.

roscoe:
and he becomes a piece, or he's good and joins the team, but he's unfortunately doing neither.

steph:
Yeah.

biehner:
Yeah, like realistically. I wouldn't want to include Nemea in any trade. But if you could get Bukestad and Chickering, and like you got to give to get right, you're not going to get what you want for free.

roscoe:
No, and I mean bukes. that's thirty. He's up at the end of the year. He only makes nine hundred K. It's a cheap add. As a, he's a center right wing. It's bolstering your bottom six, which is something that they desperately need. Like Camp needs some help down there. I'm sorry, Especially you're going to be moving Angvall out. You need to bring somebody into replace him. So Buke that works there. Yeah, you're spending a lot here. That's something that least nation isn't used to, especially under Davis. He's typically been spending low and getting unexpected Us. but I think this is goin to be the first time where we see him move something that people go on, but good. I mean, I don't know how I feel about this like it's going to be one of those. The trade's going t go through Youre gonna go. Oh ship. We gave up a lot for this the first time since. I mean, the nickfline Trade was kind of that because we hadn't spent a first rounder in a while, and and bought somebody at the deadline in a while, and I think that was a shock to everybody, especially when it didn't pan out, so I mean, it's really the only one recent memory at least

biehner:
Realistically though this should be Dubis's chance to show off what he can do with the draft capital or the prospect pool that he's built up like he's built up this prospect pool at the same time as trying to take care of all the bad contracts that he was handcuffed with from Lamarello,

roscoe:
Exactly, and the plus side of that is Yeah, you've got all these guys that could potentially come in and join Marner and Matthews down the line And you know it's awesome having too many guys to deal with, but the other side of that is you can move some of these guys right like you're never going to able to fit them all. I've played enough for these simulator games and gone seasons deep where I've collected too many of these guys and go ship like this guy. I have six guys that are all supposed to be first line people, but I can only put three of them on the first line, so I probably so Moved some of these guys a while ago. You know it's There's not gonna be room for all them if they're all fantastic. So magic beans trade well of value is still imaginary

steph:
Now what if he does something completely less left field as we already imagine, But it's for a goal tender because Murray is

roscoe:
Thatcher,

steph:
not

roscoe:
dem co,

biehner:
I was actually thinking about putting together a proposal for dem go and Shin.

roscoe:
Demo and shen. Why d? I don't get Shen only because I think our bottom d is so deep that the only thing that they're missing is a like a pair for or substitution for a faltering Riley, or they need to boast of the bottom six or the left wing. Like those are kind of the things that I think need addressing Like the bottom of the D is pretty pretty deep though, am I wrong?

biehner:
I agree with you. Um. There's two reasons I would include she there. one for the nostalgia, because I love the guy.

roscoe:
Oh yeah,

biehner:
Um, loved him when he was drafted, especially because he had that world juniors, Remember him fighting against Russia in the World Juniors, which you never see. Um. So I've always loved Shen, and then every main stream sports media, talking head out, there will always and forever say that Leafs need a big, strong physical defense men, and they can never have enough defense.

roscoe:
But I mean, don't you already

biehner:
But

roscoe:
have Georgie? Ben, for that isn't Isn't Ben? Kind of your chin?

biehner:
A game here there sends a little bit more effective in that rule,

roscoe:
Yeah, like I get it. I just I feel like by committee you have what she is going O bring like everybody is kind of bringing an element of that already. Like I get it.

steph:
I.

roscoe:
I'm not against it. I just think it's It's not where I would spend just because there are so many things that could be improved like after watching Boston and watching team, But it's like I'm not going to count the Boston game right before they all start break in the bye week for much, because like nobody was mentally in that game, they were so Checked out. they were as checked out as their bags were. So like, I would just say that the the reason Arizona makes sense like you brought up, as you've got either cross or bugestads, You can bring in somebody that's their top six or bottom six plus a defense man, or you go over to Chicago or San Hose, or I don't mean, I don't know who else outside of that thing Over even and try to find a combination of a top winger and a goal or a top winger and a defense man. So I'm so excited to see what he does, but it's like it's just the waiting game. You know, we can all speculate all you want, but nobody is going to actually nail what dupes is going to do, And if any of you do, please, please send me your

steph:
M.

roscoe:
prediction and I

steph:
M,

roscoe:
swear, Mike the fanatic, If you nail this prediction

biehner:
But you

roscoe:
season,

steph:
M,

biehner:
have to

roscoe:
maybe

biehner:
send it now.

roscoe:
yeah, you gotta send me the like time Green shot. You know that shows you tweeted it like whenever I.

steph:
Yeah,

roscoe:
So we're gonna buy week here. So the leaves are back Friday and Saturday against the Columbus Blue Jackets. That's going to be so exciting. The blue Jackets aren't great. So what do you want to see from the leased of these two games? Matthews is still out. Do you want to see Marie start the first or the second game here? Like if he's healthy?

biehner:
I want to see a Joseph will win

roscoe:
Yeah, what?

steph:
Yeah,

roscoe:
Now that I say that, Actually, I totally forgot about this. What is the update on on Matt Murray? Is he?

steph:
Um, no

roscoe:
It doesn't

steph:
update.

roscoe:
say he's on injured reserve.

steph:
I think Wall will be backing up some sona. Um, and I think Wall is going to get the Saturday night game. Um, man, the guy. Hasn't you know? He's thirteen? One an o on the season Nine thirty one. The Chell top honors. Give him the shot. Who cares? Murray. Sit down. This guy is the next. This's the future of the leaves right now, the brick wall, and I hope everything goes well for him. Um, Johnny Gudro

roscoe:
Oh,

steph:
better not break out verse the leaves here.

roscoe:
Just an update here from nine hours ago. This is from fan sided up dated one minute ago. Thanks David Corcoran,

steph:
Wow

roscoe:
So Um, as per Cap friendly, the Leafs have recalled only Pontus Holmburgh from the Tronomarle's, They sent both Joseph All and Haunt to Pontus Hlmburgh, to the Marley's last week during the break, so he could get some action over the weekend. So the fact that they only brought Homburg back means that Murray is probably good to go this weekend.

biehner:
Cap Friendly Wall was called up on emergency loan today,

steph:
Today, Yep,

roscoe:
Well, I

steph:
David,

roscoe:
don't know that.

steph:
The hell,

biehner:
So I think it will be really interesting to see over the next little while, as well a lot of the quote, unquote paper transactions that happened with the leaves

steph:
No,

biehner:
To try to accumulate as much extra cap space as you can. Now that's realistically. that might not even be possible with how deep they are into the l t R pool. But it will be. It will be interesting to see, because everybody and their brother has been saying that some massive block busters coming.

roscoe:
Yeah, and I feel like that isn't usually the case right. Like people aren't usually saying that Dubisis is going to do something big. It's usually a lot of the the same talk of. you know. He's going to. Everybody else is going to do something big. He's going to get the thing out of left field that everybody forgot about that will make an impact and he'll spend law on it and he'll maybe spend like some dude that was never going play for the males, and a third rounder for this guy that's going play on the third line and it's gonna be fantastic and that's usually it

steph:
Yeah,

roscoe:
The first time we've been hearing from everywhere for weeks, and you know it's always dubs spotted with this g. M in that g. M. and at this game in that game like I have no idea what this guy's cooking up.

steph:
I mean, Mark Jeradono was a very nice surprise, especially getting a number one defense defender and a Nors winner at that, so it makes me wonder you know who is out there. That's a Toronto boy aging looking for their last years in the N. H. L. Is that going to be a trend? I don't know it. Just it's been a trend so far with dubs. Is that going to continue? or are we actually go To make a splash with someone who may stick with the leaves long term, or next two or three years. I hope so. if

roscoe:
I hope

steph:
it makes them go far,

roscoe:
Yeah, I mean, is Ranald Riley from Toronto, Canadian?

steph:
Um,

biehner:
He is

steph:
who?

biehner:
Canadian.

steph:
Yeah, also boovarorthat. Oh my god, Hobart. What am I saying? He's from London, So all

roscoe:
Well,

steph:
that speculation of him coming to Toronto ended, but yeah, that would have been a

roscoe:
Well, not only

steph:
right.

roscoe:
that, so we didn't talk about this, So Horrovat goes to the islanders. and then there was this weird period where everyone's like is like going a flip him like. Why did the island like? I guess why the islanders brought in somebody that can score. But are they actually going for it like they're barely fighting for wild card right now Like it's not? It's not even a lock that they're gonna be in the playoffs And it's on on Luke, on on Lou like that was a horrible attempt n lo. Like two Spend on somebody like this Like even he said, Which is my favorite quote. My favorite lu quote ever. When asked how much it was, he said It's for too much money and for too long

steph:
Yeah, Why would he say that

roscoe:
Because he thinks that everybody now is overpaid. He doesn't want anybody to have a number over forty like he's crazy, So I get it for the islanders. They need somebody who can score, but I just I don't get there. The one spending. So then everybody was speculating, You know, is he going to flip this before the deadline and then it comes out eight times eight and a half. He's He's going to be on Long Island for a long time and everybody else went Lo. What the hell? It's like everybody was fighting over this And you just walked in and took it And just said Okay, We're just going to throw this in this in the safe for safe keeping. Thanks guys, is like he just took the biggest name off the board next to the team of mayor.

biehner:
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he did end up flipping it.

roscoe:
You think it's even still like a side in trade.

biehner:
You can get more in return now because he's locked up.

roscoe:
He's locked up eight and a half times eight. That's not a crazy deal. but like it's not like lose retaining anything on that, like he's going to have to. No team can take that on without moving salary to him.

biehner:
He's at a point in his career where every single thing he does doesn't matter

roscoe:
He's

biehner:
Because

roscoe:
eighty.

biehner:
he's not

roscoe:
By

biehner:
going

roscoe:
the

biehner:
to be

roscoe:
way,

biehner:
there right.

steph:
M.

biehner:
he's not going to be there when when it comes time to pay the piper right,

roscoe:
He's not going to. I'm not going to say it.

biehner:
Yeah,

roscoe:
It's an eight year contract. He might not be signing the last check on that. We'll just say

steph:
Lu

roscoe:
that

steph:
bought honestly like Lu, got punked in a sense where he bought him for his best year in a contract year like you're You bought me. I don't know. You're staying mediocre at best in my mind, like you're not improving to me losing that prospect. Raddy, and you know even what was it? a first rounder, conditional

roscoe:
First

steph:
unprotected

roscoe:
Bolivia

steph:
pick

roscoe:
and to Rat. Or Yeah, so

steph:
A to raddy. Yeah,

roscoe:
it's apparently pronounced.

biehner:
It's actually pronounced ratto.

roscoe:
Yeah, it's pronounced at rat.

steph:
Oh, sorry,

roscoe:
I know

steph:
sorry,

roscoe:
it's

steph:
rat.

roscoe:
weird.

biehner:
Yeah,

roscoe:
Sorry, it's not weird. It's a different language. That doesn't make it weird. It's just

steph:
Yeah,

roscoe:
different

steph:
it's

roscoe:
pronunciation.

steph:
not weird. Just

roscoe:
Uh, it's still Bolivia, a first and at rat for Bowhorvet, So that's a late first mid second round prospect. Somebody who's locked up. That's you know. Basically you guess comparable to cure foot for us. If we're moving something out, it's a you know middle six, Three and a half to four and a half mile, and then at first, So that's kind of. it's telling for what the leaves would have to spend. You're looking at a prospect of first, and and somebody that's that's serviceable in the H. who's not making too much money.

steph:
No more beards, no more jewelry, no long hair. You're locked in.

roscoe:
I don't think Bohorvat

steph:
An.

roscoe:
ever had any of that sort. O think he really cares.

steph:
He had kind of a well. he has facial hair.

roscoe:
Yeah,

steph:
Lu doesn't allow any right.

roscoe:
no, none, none, and

biehner:
More

roscoe:
they got

biehner:
of

roscoe:
to

biehner:
scruff

roscoe:
wear.

biehner:
than anything.

roscoe:
They got to wear suits everywhere and all that anyway. So the other one that was locked up stream with the Washington Capitals five times five for him, so lots of symmetrical contracts was five times five and a half and eight times eight n a half.

steph:
Yeah, finally you know, finding a home after the

roscoe:
Rangers boot

steph:
the

roscoe:
him out.

steph:
Know, the Black Hawks, the Black

roscoe:
Other

steph:
Hawks.

roscoe:
strong right.

steph:
Yeah, that was the other. Strom didn't give him the qualifying offer And then he signed a one year deal, three point five with Washington, and they liked him, so you know, and I like him there, too. I think he's a good fit with that team.

roscoe:
They also just locked up Sunny Milano, for, was it three times one point nine or something like that, which it's nice to see. I mean, we talked about this with the capitals. How there's not a lot for the future, Like they've kind of just been looking towards the next twenty minutes with Ovid and that seems to be as far as they've ever looked. So now it seems like they're They're starting to build out words. You know, He's thirty eight. They got to move on and it looks like they're They're kind of solidifying the outer rim and they got to maybe make a move once Ovis gone for A big name, because I don't think they're on to draft one. With the way that they play. They're always kind of middle of the pack. unless they get really lucky.

biehner:
Yeah, they're going to

steph:
Yeah,

biehner:
be like the like the wild Right. For the longest time the Minnesota Wild were stuck in that kind of mushy middle. They were good enough not to draft well, but bad enough not to really get anywhere.

roscoe:
Yeah, and how did they end up with Kaprizof? They brought him over from the K or something. Hold on. Baneryourit. says your browser, stopping you from recording, So I think we'll We'll call it at that. We'll pick back up after the games this week End Tuesday, now Friday, Friday, we're all good for Friday. We can,

steph:
Friday,

roscoe:
or do we want to do Thursday and then Saturday night. Does that make more sense? Tuesday?

steph:
I don't know,

roscoe:
Thursday, Saturday, let's do that Tuesday, Thursday,

steph:
Sure.

roscoe:
Saturday, we'll see you then. thank you all for being here. Love you. good night.

steph:
M.

roscoe:
Hey, Marty, congrats on the publishing deal again.